Although my posts here have not always been apolitical, I have generally attempted to avoid political posts that have no connection to computing, mathematics, or academia. But sometimes it seems impossible to avoid, even though (with so little concrete that I or others can do) it may seem more hand-wringing than anything else.
Trump's campaign seemed at its start to be a joke by an obvious incompetent, another swindle (for the campaign money) by a long-time swindler. Nobody sane and well-informed could even consider voting for him. But then he was elected. At each choice he has taken whatever polluted most, caused the most poverty, decreased healthcare or in any other way would hurt citizens in general the most. Enough of the crazy conspiracy theories behind his election have turned out to be based in fact to make it hard not to believe that he is an outright traitor, deliberately sabotaging US interests in payback for an election he won with knowing assistance from foreign intelligence. He has made enemies of the progressive democracies that should be our closest friends and snuggled close to the most tyrannical dictators of the world. He has presided over a natural disaster in Puerto Rico with thousands of citizens dead and complete unconcern and nonresponse from the government. And he is in deep and wilful violation of clear injunctions in the US constitution not to seek personal profit from his position. So, a bad choice, one to be repudiated as strongly as possible through the normal process of elections and (if possible) impeachment.
But now, with the latest stories of babies literally snatched from their mothers' breasts, taken away on the pretense of having a nice shower, thrown into literal cages, stuck in tents in the Texas summer heat, misplaced or otherwise disappeared, it becomes clear that those responses (while still necessary) are not sufficient. Trump, his cronies, his enforcers, and his enablers in Congress must be brought to justice for their crimes against humanity.
As the linked story states, "There was a term used for non-members of the Nazi party in Germany who looked the other way and allowed things to happen. They were called Nazis."
Maybe we're not yet at the point of literal death camps and an outright existential threat to the free people of the rest of the world. I hope not (although I would argue that the Trump camp's approach to climate change really is a big part of an existential threat). But can we wait until we are at that point?
As far as I understand, they are now trying to figure out a way not to separate the children, but that will require changing the laws [1]. In any case, this is far from Nazi-Germany stuff.
BTW, AFAIK the parents can easily get their children back, if they agree to be deported [2].
Regarding asylum seekers, as far as I know they are not detained, nor are their children taken away from them [3]:
[1,2,3] https://www.dailywire.com/news/31979/media-are-lying-about-trump-separating-illegal-ben-shapiro
When something is wrong, then it is wrong. This is not a fight the current administration would win, and if it was run by a competent president, it would already have been rescinded. As it is, I give this policy a few days/weeks before this would happen, otherwise, the republicans are going to pay a very high price in the midterm elections. Their choice...
John Stossel argues that we should go back to the old days, in which disaster relief was handled by charities, and not by big government:
Anyway, yes, this is not the first poor response from FEMA. In George W's credit, though, he did treat Katrina as a disaster rather than mostly ignoring it. And this all has little to do with any possible justification for deliberately torturing babies to punish their parents for legally seeking asylum.
Let me be more explicit regarding my opinion on the immigrant children issue:
* I completely agree with you that children should not be punished for the sins of their parents.
* I completely agree with Sariel that something is not moral just because it is legal.
I said that, since the Trump administration wants to be stricter on immigration than the Obama administration (which basically let off the hook all those who came with children), they have no choice but separate the children. I also said that separating children is standard practice when parents are arrested. To which you guys replied that this is just an excuse, and they are really doing it as a form of "punishment". My response to that is: Perhaps you are right. I don't know. It sounds plausible.
Sariel also said that, besides the moral issue, this is also a politically stupid move. My response: This also sounds plausible...
I also said that there is a distinction between illegal immigrants and asylum seekers, and the latter ones are not being arrested nor are their children being taken away from them. I gave a source for that. But now you are again conflating the asylum seekers with the illegal immigrants.
Now regarding John Stossel's position on FEMA: Yes, this is part of an overall philosophy against generous government safety nets. According to this approach, poor people should be taken care of by local communities and charities. Only in extreme cases should the government provide a minimal safety net.
This is a well-thought-out philosophy espoused by thoughtful, rational people. I can provide you links to several of these, so you can check that they explain their viewpoint in a cogent, rational way.
(So according to this, people should donate more to charity. Does John Stossel do that? I have no idea...)
-So now to my main point: I completely understand that you find Donald Trump crazy and disgusting. But many people still think he is doing many things right. They have reasoned arguments why Obamacare is bad, why the Iranian deal was bad (and why the Europeans are wrong to support the Iranian deal), etc.
These conservative people are not crazy. They make their points in coherent arguments. I can provide links if you want, just so you can see these are sane, rational people.
But in your post, everything Trump does is automatically crazy and disgusting. I assume that is the prevailing tone in sites such as the Daily Kos.
And one final point: I'm assuming that by posting a political post, you were open to a political discussion. And that's just what I'm doing, hopefully in a civilized way...
Btw, this problem of children separation is not going away and it is going to fester for the next several months. This is going to be a political nightmare for the Republicans. Just a nightmare for the rest of us..