Sometimes you can get people to agree on the answer even when they can't agree on the question. So I'm not so worried about divergent goals. On the other hand, a Functional Requirements document would be the right way to deal with the issue of common goals. Does someone (not me) want to draft a Functional Requirements document and submit it by next Thursday as an Internet Draft? (Mainly just to raise awareness of the issue.) I was hoping also that some things would get discussed at a July 8 f2f meeting at NaviSoft, but I hadn't heard back about whether the July 10 meeting could get moved. (The DMA technical committee meets in the SF bay area July 9-12.) If Navisoft can't host on July 8, I could probably arrange to host the meeting at Xerox PARC. Larry